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[Discussion] My own personal guide to used hardware alternatives.

Hi there. My name is Jeff. I've been building systems for the better part of 15 years and try my best to contribute here actively. After being involved in this little community for a few years now, I'm noticing a serious lack of discussion about buying used components, and I feel like it's time to shed a little light on the subject for those looking to build on a (seriously) tight budget.
As Linus said in his scrapyard wars video, buying new on $300 isn't practical, and if you posed the challenge to him on a random day, buying used is almost certainly the path he'd choose. As someone who's been "scrapyarding" as a hobby for the better part of 10 years, I figured I'd take some time to share some of what I've learned for the modern audience.
Let's begin with a simple rundown of modern "budget" choices, and I'll tell you what I'd do instead.
The G3258 and Athlon 860k are the sub-$100 CPUs of choice, and both work just fine. I have built with both in the past, and each carries their own set of advantages.
Used Alternatives: You can go in a couple of directions here; if you happen to have an LGA 1366 motherboard lying around, you can get an i7 920 or better for under $50, and they still hold up reasonably well. Being that LGA 1366 boards are not typically cheap when purchased used, my favourite option is the Phenom II x4 Black Edition series, each of which compare favourably to modern budget options, and will even overclock on some incredibly dated, dirt cheap AM2+ boards. In my experience, eBay prices on these get a little too high for my taste, but I've been able to nab several on Kijiji locally in Toronto for under $50 as well.
The R7 260x and GTX 750 ti are often cited as budget options for most builders, with the latter serving a very specific role in systems where power draw might be a concern. While there exists no option that can complete with the low consumption of the 750 ti (or even the single 6-pin connector goodness of the 260x), its performance can easily be matched (and exceeded) for less money.
Used Alternatives: The bitcoin mining craze from a few years back led to the Radeon 7950 and 7970 being blacklisted on the used market, and I think the fears about burned-out cards are a little overblown. Here in Toronto, you can easily grab a 7950 for the price of a 260x, but I don't pay anywhere near that for my builds. At most, a Windforce will cost me $125, as where I recently picked up some non-boost edition PowerColor versions for a mere $83 each (bought 3 for $250).
EDIT: Forgot to mention something important - avoid the reference 7950 and 7970. They were employed to a far greater degree in mining rigs because of their rear-only exhaust, and if you see a bunch of them from the same seller listed at once, they're likely old mining cards. Only pick them up if they're incredibly cheap.
Want to go even cheaper? The Radeon 6950 (with the shader unlock, preferably) or even the 6970 will rival the performance of the 260x, and shouldn't cost Canadians more than $50-$60. I personally have 2 in my possession right now, and have gone through at least a dozen in the last 6 months.
In general, one should always avoid Nvidia when buying used, because they are far too popular and overvalued for their performance as they age. I still see GTX 660s selling for $150, which is absolutely absurd.
Motherboards on the used market are weird, and this can largely be attributed to the fact that they're hard to transport and don't handle well over time. As such, people don't really sell boards on their own that often, and you'll likely have more luck finding a combo of some kind (or even a ready-to-go tin-can with no graphics card) for less per part than you will finding a given board on its own.
Used Alternatives: The boards I'd recommend depend entirely on the CPU you've chosen. Being that I'm a fan of the Phenom II x4 series, AM2+ boards are going to be dirt cheap, but DDR2 RAM is actually fucking expensive, so you'd likely be better off going with AM3. I've even seen some used AM3+ boards (The 970 ASRock Extreme3, in particular) for as low as $40, so it wouldn't hurt to look.
On the Intel side, you're actually at a significant disadvantage. Much like Nvidia cards, Intel boards (and CPUs) actually retain their value and don't often come cheap. For me, LGA 1156 is the price/performance sweet spot, granted I can find an i7 8XX to go with it. Even still, they're going to run you a fair bit more than an AMD board, and likely aren't worth it by comparison.
Ram is ram. DDR2 is pricy as fuck due to an obvious market shortage of the stuff, so the AM2+ board option might not be best by comparison. DDR3 ram, however, is ubiquitous, and I always die a little inside when people building on a "budget" choose to buy new at all. If I'm being honest, I can get DDR3 ram from e-waste recycling companies for as low as $10 per 4GB stick, at 1333MHz, and not once have I ever had a bad stick of the stuff. Even for people going the route of the G3258 (which only supports 1333MHz), this is the clear winner.
Is value RAM ugly as sin? Sure it is. It is just as good as that fancy Ripjaws shit you've got in your current build? You betcha.
Hard Drives are actually a tricky game, as they are the single most volatile component in any budget build, easily succumbing to wear and tear from age and daily use. As such (and some might find this hard to believe) I actively avoid HDDs when building value systems for people and opt for cheap SSDs instead. As always, check the date on a drive if you're really insistent on buying one, and considering how cheap a WD blue is new, don't pull the trigger on one unless it's for less than $30/TB.
SSDs are obviously (akin to RAM) highly resilient and are nearly guaranteed to work when purchased used. The average SSD pulled from an old laptop or an office off-lease desktop, will have no more than 100GB of writes on it, which leaves 99% of its life for you to exploit. While there exists no specific recommendation for which brand to buy, just be sure you're getting a relatively good drive with SATA III capability. 120/128GB variants of these sorts should cost you no more than $50 in my native Canada, and I've even gotten lucky on some larger sizes too. Recently I picked up 4 256GB Samsung 840 Pros for $75 each (I came), just days after I bought a Crucial MX100 of the same size for $85.
Monitors are fun to buy, because the recent shifts in display technology have rendered a lot of recent-but-obsolete models nearly valueless. For example, remember when 16:10 was a thing? I actually still like 1680x1050 monitors, but the rest of the world seems to disagree, so I've been able to pick up 23" variants for as little as $40. Being that the slightly lower resolution actually eases the strain on your VRAM a bit, it's a nice fit for a lot of budget cards that might not have a full 2GB available, like some variants of the 6950. 1600x900 monitors are often just as cheap and come with the same inherent benefit of being obsolete despite being almost as good as its bigger 1080p cousin.
Keyboards and Mice
If you're on a budget, we can't even have this discussion. As much as I like mechanical keyboards and high-precision gaming mice, people building used $300 systems aren't going to allot any of their budget buying them. That said, wired USB keyboards and mice are virtually free (search your local goodwill or value village for some), and if you have to pay money, buy a wireless combo for $20 new from some little shit store in a suburb somewhere.
Cases on their own sell for about half of their original retail price, give or take based on the condition. I normally just get them as a part of a tin-can bundle and make use of them if they aren't too dirty, but when building for someone else, I'd often just prefer to buy a new budget case in the $40 range.
I saved this topic for last, because it's by far the most difficult category to master. First off, you really need to do your research and understand how PSUs work before delving into these guys, as the cost associated is almost entirely dependent on how resilient the underlying platform has been proven to be. Generally speaking, reading reviews on JonnyGuru and HardOCP is a great start, but none of them account for units that are several years old.
As a general rule of thumb, I use the EVGA 500W W1 as a reference point, and build my value tree around that. In other words, if a new EVGA 500W (a passable, proven budget unit) is cheaper than a used 500W variant of a better brand, why would I bother buying used? Sure, that 520W Seasonic S12II puts the EVGA to shame in terms of voltage regulation and ripple suppression, but can I really make the same claims of a unit that's 5 years into its life? Wouldn't I just be safer buying new? These are all factors you have to consider.
For me, the threshold lies around 50% in terms of cost savings vs. risk. In other words, if you can find a used quality unit for less than half the price of the cheapest quality unit available at a given time, buy it.
Anyhow I think that covers everything. And as a closing note, remember to be safe. Meet potential sellers (and buyers) in public, well-lit places, and try your best to avoid entering someone's home without some protections in place. Also, the more info you get about the person (address, phone number, etc) the less likely it is that a person will be trying to scam you. People who purposely conceal their identity do so for a reason.
Also, feel free to ask me anything about my own experiences buying and selling used. I've been doing it as a hobby for a long, long time and have sold many value builds to people who can't otherwise afford PCs. I'm happy to impart any wisdom I might've gained over the years.
Edit: CPU Coolers! Forgot those. Air coolers are a safe bet. They're slabs of copper and aluminum with fans strapped to them. Buy with confidence, and seek one out for $10-$15 if you plan to overclock. AIO water cooling is not so safe. Those things are typically only good for 2-3 years, and you have no idea how much longer a pump has before it gives. Budget builders likely aren't water-cooling anyhow, right?
Edit 2: Just to be clear, when I said I'd been doing this for a long time, I should clarify that a) I once owned a game store and sold systems out of there and b) I currently resell systems out of my house to raise money for charity builds. I really don't want people to get the impression I'm trying to sell anything.
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Building Student Desktop - Value for Money - i5 6500 vs i5 4590 - UK/GB

Build Help:

Hi there. First post, and I hope I can receive some advice on a pc I am going to build.  
Quick Context: Engineering Student in Level 5 Of study, starting my 3rd Year in Study (Foundation -> 1st Year -> 2nd Year {Currently Here}), and I need to upgrade my existing computer, with a budget of less than £250.  
What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.  
I Need a quicker computer (than currently on hand) for software simulation and Microsoft Office work for student tasks such as projects, assignments and research. Including MatLab, Eclipse, FEMM, AUTODESK, EDS and more.  
If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)  
Not of top priority, but I currently have a 7970, and a friend is offering a gtx 970 (2nd hand) for £125. I am fine with 1080p 60fps med settings on any game (I like games such as pillars of eternity, Divinity 2 original sin, LoL, but rarely play as much as i used to due to studying.)  
What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?  
£250, a little more if fine, but the less the better  
In what country are you purchasing your parts?  
UK/Great Britain  
Current Parts:  
CPU - AMD 860k @ 4.3GHz (Purchased 2nd hand)  
Fan - Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (Purchased 2nd Hand, came only with am3 socket) MoBo - Gigabyte F2A68HM-HD2 (Purchased 2nd hand - exdisplay)  
RAM - 2 * 4GB Patriot PSD1600k PC3-12800 1600MHZ DDR3 (Purchased New)  
GPU - Sapphire 7970 3G D5 Boost (Purchased 2nd Hand)  
HDD - KingDian 128gb SSD (Purchased 2nd Hand) - WD 1TB Passport Ext. Drive(Gifted, New)(I Prefer my big data to be portable)  
PSU - EVGA 600W 80+ (Purchased New)  
Case - CiT Barricade mATX (Purchased New)  
Windows 10 (Purchased for me by University)  
Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). [Consider formatting your parts list.]  
There are 2 Options:  
Socket 1150 CPU - intel i5 4590 - £90 -  
Fan - Cooler Master Hyper T2 - £12.83 -  
MoBo - Asrock H81M-DGS R2.0 (supports 4th gen intel) - £38.96 -  
Ram - Can either Re-use my 8GB but I often find myself running out. Considering Going to Computer Exchange (CeX) and looking for:8gb ddr3 stick - £18 a stick- -  
Hopefully I can go in store and pick up a couple sticks that aren't ECC server sticks at my local store.  
Socket 1151 CPU - intel i5 6500 - £110 -  
Fan - Cooler Master Hyper T2 - £12.83 -  
MoBo - MSI H110M ECO - £39.48 -  
Ram - Need DDR4 for the new platform. Considering Going to Computer Exchange (CeX) and looking for:8gb ddr4 stick - £32 a stick- - Hopefully I can go in store and pick up a couple sticks that aren't ECC server sticks at my local store.  
Provide any additional details you wish below.  
Re-using the mATX case, psu and my hdd.  
Things I like in a computer - Quiet, cool, powerful.  
I understand my current case is complete trash, so if someone who knows more could recommend a case (within the budget) a case that could contribute to keeping my pc cool, and quiet. I've noticed during the summer my pc will act as a radiator and my room temperature peaked at an astonishing (for me, here in the UK) 39 Degrees. My student room isn't well ventilated, and while it may be great this winter coming, I don't want to experience the sweat fest that the last few summers have been with this pc.  
Also, a replacement GPU isn't an immediate grab, but I think i'll be in the market for something soon, as my 7970 was purchased 2nd hand from a bitcoin miner, and now after a few years of use, is slowly starting to die, as random screen tearing, sudden display crashes, crazy flashing during running fullscreen programs, even such as youtube, which never happened when i first got the card.  
If someone could squeeze something more powerful and modern into the budget along with the new cpu/mobo/ram combo. I mentioned the 970 my friend is offering, but I don't know if its worth it, or what I need. If it helps, if i could've found a New RX 570 at RRP (UK around £180) I would've gotten that, and gone over budget.  
Don't know if I left anything out, but it might be worth mentioning I have no brand loyalty, or favourites on Intel vs AMD, or nVidia vs radeon (I can't afford to). Just the best value for money, and I'm not afraid of second hand purchases, which is why you will see so much come up through what i've listed.  
If anyone needs more information, just ask and i'll try to respond within 24hrs.
Thanks in advance to all the help;
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I took the plunge - 2x 7970's on their way for potential rig - I have no idea what I'm doing - Help appreciated!

So since this past Spring break, my brother in his all powerful insider knowledge on this strange thing named BitCoins introduced me to this bandwagon. I've since joined in and bought all I could muster with the funds in my bank without ruining myself and have thus far reaped a beautiful profit that my wife deems pleasant. This is, of course, something EXTRAORDINARY. Ahem. So I decided to wager my trust I've earned with her with said investment, and have decided to use a few more funds to build a mini miner. Obviously this won't be the mega tank that you see all over Youtube, Just a simple machine that may have the potential of 1.6GH/s is my hope.
So this is what I've bought so far:
Total thus far after Rebates & Selling Games: ~$1300 USD
Estimated 1.6GH/s with profits beginning in ~85 days (Before crash, of course XD - Now who knows!)
Great thing is if all this goes kaput, I'll at least be able to resell it all! :D
I have a monitor around for initial setup, and all the other obvious peripherals. What I am in need of are some tips or links in setting these 2 guys up. I'm somewhat new to Building a PCI-E Rig, but I'm sure its just as simple as plugging it all in, which I've done countless times before. I know that if I'm on Linux I won't need any dummy plugs for the DVI outputs on the other cards for it to be recognized by the OS. Can it be run purely all on a USB drive? That's one thing I'm a little unsure of.
Mostly my questions consist of:
I don't care much for people bantering about how difficult it is now to mine, or how ineffective this might be, I've read my share about that. I plan on just having this run in the corner of my little apartment for a few months while I go to school/work/walk the dog/etc... I would like tips or any insider info on other fellow 7970'ers on how to maximize my performance with these two cards at my disposal. And of course those who do help me in my time of need and once it's all beautiful and vampiric-sparkly like will get Brownie Points in the afterlife.
Last computer I built was back in 2004 so that I could play Half Life 2. And I was on a budget back then too. So I'm not too savvy with all this new cooling hardware and techniques as I've never had to deal with things that exceeded 4x AGP.
I'll post pictures and videos of all the fun I have with this adventure :D
Thus far I have only received my two 7970's and boy do they look beastly. I've never held a card that manly before.
2nd Update
Everything came in! Goodness it's difficult to do a headless Linux Box! for sake of time, I think I'm just going to buy a cheap sata harddrive.
3rd Update
So here's the final photo of it running with 2xx7970's
I'm still waiting for the riser cables to come in to mount the other 3 cards.
I haven't uploaded the videos of me building it all just yet (btw I sucked at putting it all together XD)
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[Bitcoin Mining] Just Started! Here are my specs!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 @ Microcenter
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $99.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard $224.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance Performance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $249.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99 @ NCIX US
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card $399.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $107.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $154.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $59.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ Outlet PC
Monitor Asus VG23AH 23.0" Monitor $213.98 @ SuperBiiz
Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 Revolution Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse $152.70 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $2054.57
Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-27 22:34 EDT-0400
I set up the Bitcoin wallet, and am using GUIMiner.
What are the best settings for me to use? (I'm in Slush's Pool)
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[Build Ready] Budget workstation / gaming / folding rig [AU Pricing]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Type Item Price
CPU 'Intel Confidential' Core i7 Extreme i7-3960X 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (Engineering Sample) $445 @ Misc
CPU Cooler Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $149.95 @ Mwave Australia
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard $239.00 @ Scorptec
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $109.95 @ Mwave Australia
Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $0 (Carry-over)
Hard Drive Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $239.99 @ Mwave Australia
Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) $498 @ CPL
Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) $498 @ CPL
Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) $498 @ CPL
Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) $498 @ CPL
Case Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case $199.99 @ Mwave Australia
Power Supply Corsair 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $269 @ Amazon (Shipped)
Other LG CH12LS28 12X BD-R Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive $55 @ PCCaseGear
Prices include shipping and discounts when available. $3698.89
Edit: Forgot to add the optional mesh side panel with 4x 120mm fans
I already have the motherboard, processor, storage and power supply.
Remembering that these are Australian prices, how does this build look for a general purpose workstation / folding / gaming rig? It's main goal is for 120FPS on 120Hz monitors in eyefinity (Once you've gone 120Hz you can never go back), and compute (fold/mine) like a mofo, but I also work on it. (Autodesk suite, Premiere, 3DSM, SolidWorks, Inventor and more)
I would have liked to have gone a little further here and there, but I have to draw the line somewhere. To be specific where I would have liked to not cut corners:
The quadfire dilemma I had not originally planned to go for quad 7970s, the aim was just trifire to push me near that 120FPS for eyefinity, well beyond in the most intensive games for a single monitor and reduce microstuttering. I did not like the idea of the cards trying to peel hot air off the PCB on its sibling card like they were suffocating and suffering from asthma, so I planned on using an Asus Rampage IV Extreme, using slots one, four and seven to allow a one expansion slot gap between each card, in a Raven RV02 (non evo). Then my buddy (who also does Bitcoin mining) pointed out that if I kept the gigabyte board I would only spending an additional $0~ to $200~ (depending if I sold the Gigabyte board) by NOT purchasing the much more expensive Asus board and getting a fourth 7970 instead. We worked out the math and the extra card's Mhash/s would pay for itself in two months. Noise and heat aren't a huge issue as it's only temporary until I sort out the water loop. I'll also be getting a bit more gaming performance (when it works) and my general workstation tasks like rendering (V-Ray RT, SW etc.) will also be happy with the extra GPU compute power.
I have a HighGrade triple 24" stand and had to return the monitor I just bought, and am still yet to decide 100% on which displays but I am leaning towards three BenQ XL2420T 24" 120Hz 1080P monitors. Unlike the 120Hz Samsungs, they have VESA mounts and unlike the 120Hz Asus monitors, I'm not paying a premium for Nvidia 3D Vision that I'm not going to use. Really looking for suggestions/recommendations here!
The case The 650D can fit a thin 280 rad in the top & 120 on the rear. With the HDD cage removed, 200 in the front or 240 on the floor, perhaps a combination of both with some modification (though unlikely, I enjoy a challenge). I could make it nice and neat, but I think I still prefer a chiller under my house with lines routed through the floor. Thinking of using a quality 1/4HP or 1/10HP Aquarium chiller for the job (only a couple hundred more than a good radiator setup). I'm still not 100% set on the 650D and open to other case suggestions. I appreciate the functionality of the Switch 810 but I do not like its aesthetics or size at all. Caselabs are too expensive once optioned and shipped to Australia. Very open to suggestions here also.
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What's the difference between a $400 7970 and a $600 one?

Also applies to everything in between. Let me see if I understand this correctly: A more expensive 7970 will be factory overclocked higher, from say 50mhz to over 100mhz or so, and it will contain this third party's cooling system. So all that's different really is the clock speed and fan style? You can technically save 100 bucks and overclock yourself right?
exhibit a:
exhibit b:
I ask this because I'm on the verge of returning my gtx 680. I get a 50-150 dollar discount, a little better or slightly worse performance depending on the game(i.e the same), an extra gigabyte of VRAM, bitcoin mining ability(I'm on campus housing with free electricity), and 3 free games. Good choice right? I'm just going to get the new card with billmelater, then when I receive it Ill ship the 680 back for a full refund, and when it processes I'll pay off the 7970. Good plan or great plan?
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[Build Help] bitcoin miner for $1000

Assuming bitcoin value increases over time, I'm willing to lose money in the short run when it comes to electricity costs vs value of bitcoins mined, but the real constraint is overall system cost. Is it possible to put together a bitcoin miner for under $1000 that can do the job well?
I saw that Tom's had a review of workstation cards showing poor performance by Kepler GPUs:,3297-19.html
so it's clear that a 7950 or 7970 is the way to go. Here's my first shot at a build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $208.79 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $43.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $72.35 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card $399.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master Elite 342 (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case w/400W Power Supply $62.93 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $903.03
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questions -
In my build I assumed the answer to these questions was No, Not very, No, and No, to save cost. But I could be wrong.
your thoughts?
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[Build Help] my first built PC: bitcoin rig two 7970s with occasional gaming

I'm building mainly a bitcoin mining rig with occasional gaming, and would love your help. I've never built a PC before but look forward to it!
Two 7970s have been purchased for a total of $900 including tax because it was good sale. Now the rest I'd like lots of input to decide upon. I want it to last as long as possible. Am Canadian (in Toronto) and a student. Willing to put additional $600-$1100 max into rest, nothing else bought. The main thing is it will be running 24/7 at max settings, and would shut down mining for occasional gaming.
A very knowledgable technician at TigerDirect gave me a great start but now I need to get more feedback. Looking for advice what to get, from where, and why.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Type Item Price
Video Card XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card $407.13 @ TigerDirect
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $407.13
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Run down:
• COOLING? - air or liquid? - liquid is ruled out due to expense, since it's been explained to me it costs ~$600 for the assembly to liquid cool the cards directly. Seems pointless to get CPU cooling for the 1-10% time I'd use it for gaming.
• MOBO? - this is the biggest part want help with. I have no concept how to select between the suggestions Sabertooth Z77 (Intel) or Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 (AMD). My understanding is the bus capacity is 16X for two cards is good just for gaming I'd do, otherwise wouldn't matter for bitcoin. I'm willing to invest an additional $100 above these if the quality of the parts will really last longer, but I don't want needless expense.
• CPU? - i7 ruled out as unnecessary expense, I'd get i5 if Intel. AMD is more power-efficient, but for at least the next 6-12 months I won't care, my rent includes electricity. My understanding is any performance difference of i5 vs. i7 would be A) neglible at 15% improvement, and B) only for video editing which I'd only do a few hours per year max, or never. If I were to get an AMD, an AMD FX 8320 was suggested. It's 3.5 Ghz for $160. Need help choosing between AMD or Intel. OVERCLOCKING - Also note my friend is considering overclocking speed of cards, underclock memory, and overclock the core for me.
• CROSSFIRE - desired. don't know much about.
• POWER SUPPLY? - my understanding is Corsair is a good reliable brand, for a few bucks can get 3 years warrenty for over-the-counter. know there's 4-6 tiers like AX HX TX CX, was planning on getting cheapest CX unless I understand the expense is really justified. i'll stay away from no-name brands, but don't know others. Also dunno exactly about power consumption or margin of error.
• CASE? - a case that fits, so please note the massive size of these cards, consumes 2 slots. Want lots of air cooling to mitigate costs. Aesthically also highly considering a plain white exterior to be painted... but the whole case is lowest priority for now, I want it mining bitcoin soon exposed directly to air for a short while, then can leisurely acquire case.
• MEMORY? - 8 GB was suggested, Kingston, Hyperx 1600Ghz. no clue what matters here.
• HARD DRIVE? - I want SSD, Samsung's 250 GB for $230 was suggested. I can use a spare regular harddrive to begin with to get started, add after.
Have looked at TigerDirect and NewEgg, can also look at NCIX.
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[Build Ready] My (Hopefully) Silent i7 Raven RV03 -PartList

I have a feeling that some of this may be overkill...
This is my first custom build after dealing with shit computers all my life!
This build is a general high-performance all-rounder - Uses may include some light programming, CAD work, Photoshop light gaming, lots of media consumption - HD movies, video conversion, possible bitcoin mining, maybe running a VM... oh and homework -_-
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 @ Microcenter
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $99.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $199.98 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $104.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $154.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $104.99 @ Microcenter
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card $399.99 @ Amazon
Case Silverstone RV03B-W ATX Full Tower Case $133.20 @ NCIX US
Power Supply Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $209.99 @ Amazon
Monitor Dell S2740L 60Hz 27.0" Monitor $339.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $178.98 @ Outlet PC
Other Corsair Link - Cooling and Lighting Kit $74.99
Other Air Series AF120 Performance Edition High Airflow 120mm Fan $16.99
Other Air Series AF120 Performance Edition High Airflow 120mm Fan $16.99
Other Air Series AF120 Performance Edition High Airflow 120mm Fan $16.99
Other Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition High Static Pressure 120mm Fan $16.99
Other Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition High Static Pressure 120mm Fan $16.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $2317.02
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